during the first clinton administration, i recall that we had a bit of a debate. would it make sense to invite nato and russia to become over time a member of nato? recall, 12-13 years ago around 2001, that question was raised again. obviously the russian's response was we are not interested in being a member of nato, we are interested in the change a relationship. russia went further and came back to us more recently with a whole new concept for the relationship between the west and russia for european security. some of the ideas that were put forward by medvedev during his tenure as president of russia simply in our you were not acceptable to all in the west. it was just not going to work. i think to finish, we have thehed the point where ukrainian crisis, we will need to take a sharp look again at how we can over time construct a european order, a european security document that is good for us and also ok for russia. ahead, wase jump there a feeling that the west was taking advantage of russia at a time of weakness. the economy, the political situation, it was